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It's Bloody Complicated - A Compass Podcast

In Conversation with Mark Drakeford | ep. 131

July 27, 2025 • Compass • Season 1 • Episode 131

Under Mark Drakeford’s leadership, Labour in Wales bucked the party’s national trend in 2021, winning a working majority of 30 seats in the Senedd, worked with Plaid Cymru and the Liberal Democrats, and pushed genuinely innovative, exciting, unapologetically progressive policy: the UK’s first a universal basic income (UBI) trial, a Future Generations Commissioner for Wales, changing the voting system to a form of Proportional Representation, and taking Welsh rail services back into public hands.

We talked to Mark about his vision of a good society, what’s next for Labour nationally and in Wales, and his proposal of a ‘union of solidarity’.

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